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governor romney, there's one thing i'm confused about. you say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them. but you say they would have to go back to their home countries and apply for citizenship. if you don't deport them, how do you send them home? >> the answer is self deportation. which is people can decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal document tation to allow them to work here. >> there was a little at the timer there in the back round. first of all, the phrase "self deportation". >> was a headline. >> yes. and it managed to summarize everything people didn't like about mitt romney. >> you mean firing you? >> well, the firing part of it. but the sort of cold part of it. that these are just sort of numbers on a spread sheet. these people were self deport. and i think the combination of the two, the cold hardedness and the cold-bloodedness of it just played into everybody's view of romney. >> like the bathtub is just going to overflow. >> well, it's just n
governor romney, there's one thing i'm confused about. you say you don't want to go and round up people and deport them. but you say they would have to go back to their home countries and apply for citizenship. if you don't deport them, how do you send them home? >> the answer is self deportation. which is people can decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal document tation to allow them to work here. >> there was a...
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it was a pretty good day for mitt romney. the president's listless performance in that first presidential debate which he says caused me to have a stroke averwards. here's part of his closing argument, if you want to call it that, an argument. >> you know, four years ago i said that i'm not a perfect man and i wouldn't be a perfect president. but i also promised that i'd fight every single day on behalf of the american people and all of those struggling to get in the middle class. if you vote for me, i'm promise i'll fight just as hard in the second term. >> i think a lot of it had to do with how he feels personally about mitt romney. the idea that he was just on the stage with him was beneath him. this guy was someplace else. yeah, yeah, it was his anniversary. politically, he was thinking why am i dealing with tier 2. and it showed. >> right before it, we saw a democrat facing a really tough situation along with a pretty popular governor of new jersey. here he is with the press conference with the new jersey governor, chris
it was a pretty good day for mitt romney. the president's listless performance in that first presidential debate which he says caused me to have a stroke averwards. here's part of his closing argument, if you want to call it that, an argument. >> you know, four years ago i said that i'm not a perfect man and i wouldn't be a perfect president. but i also promised that i'd fight every single day on behalf of the american people and all of those struggling to get in the middle class. if you...
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romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of "the cycle" here on msnbc and jimmy williams is an msnbc contributor. come on, guys, when you see that, don't you just get nostalgic for the campaign. it's the talk of the 47%, free stuff, and the latest from tagg romney that apparently his dad never really wanted the job anyway, right? >> the clown car is so stuffed what mall aproposeisms and other stuff. we didn't know rick perry forgetting to name some -- and newt gingrich's press release and any number of comments from him. >> but there's more. let's take a look at what i'm going to call the most monumental piece of found that didn't make it into that montage. >> there are 47% of the people who wil
romney? >> good luck tonight. really. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration? >> please proceed. can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> it's our turn now. >> president obama has been re-elected for a second term. >> i just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. all right, so? >> good times. let's get right to our panel. toure is co-host of...
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romney. and third, i think that in the republican house conference john boehner is far more worried about 35 to 70 of his most right-wing members for now anyway, especially going up to the vote on january 3rd for speaker than he is about the business community. but i also think this false balance is part of it, that the business community, like some in the media, seem to think you have to pretend to be equidistant from the parties even though the parties are not equidistant from the center or inclined to compromise, as you showed, one to the other. president obama has given a lot more ground, sometimes to the consternation of his own party, than the republicans have. >> when i watch the sort of political strategy of a group like fix the debt or just many folks in general, many in the media, the animating underlying impulse seems to be a belief that what will lead to compromise is kind of a spirit of cooperation, everyone being nice to each other. so when people stop being nice, they get upset
romney. and third, i think that in the republican house conference john boehner is far more worried about 35 to 70 of his most right-wing members for now anyway, especially going up to the vote on january 3rd for speaker than he is about the business community. but i also think this false balance is part of it, that the business community, like some in the media, seem to think you have to pretend to be equidistant from the parties even though the parties are not equidistant from the center or...
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mitt romney was also very bad messeng messenger. former bain capital expect wif the 47% comment and so many other things made it very, very difficult to win over middle class voters that might be otherwise receptive to republicans so i think the party needs new messengers and new messaging and showing and demonstrating that the party shares the voters' values, whatever those might be and i think as part of the soul searching process that republicans are going to do many republicans hope is to look at what policies that should change, what messages to change, what their priorities are in washington especially with a democratic president. why push something that will not pass when you could get on board with common sense thing that is aren't necessarily supporting the rich over everyone else. the other thing that republicans have traditionally done well on is talking about opportunity, present your policies as improving opportunity for everyone. you tend to do better. they did a bad jb of that the last year. >> we'll see. we were talk
mitt romney was also very bad messeng messenger. former bain capital expect wif the 47% comment and so many other things made it very, very difficult to win over middle class voters that might be otherwise receptive to republicans so i think the party needs new messengers and new messaging and showing and demonstrating that the party shares the voters' values, whatever those might be and i think as part of the soul searching process that republicans are going to do many republicans hope is to...
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like this ad romney ran in the state of ohio. it claimed jeep was moving to china because of the automobile loan, and it was totally false. and it totally backfired on the camp. it toe workers and their families turned out in full force on election day. and of course president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans wanted to kill organized labor. in 2012, they may have given it new life instead. here is someone who has been with us all yearlong covering workers' issues. joining me tonight, john nichols, washington correspondent of "the nation" magazine. john, it has been a very eventful year when it comes to labor. has labor been emboldened by the obama victory in november? and is there really been a new stage set for what they can accomplish? >> i think so. i think labor changed over the last year and a half, and especially over the last year. one of t
like this ad romney ran in the state of ohio. it claimed jeep was moving to china because of the automobile loan, and it was totally false. and it totally backfired on the camp. it toe workers and their families turned out in full force on election day. and of course president obama won ohio. middle class americans across this country stood in long lines to cast a vote for the candidate who would help them the most. they ignored the republican threats about a failing economy. the republicans...
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romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard because some part of me as a political junkie thinks the best move is the most incendiary crazy there, for that mitt romney moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry on the shoulder. this physical debate style which also revealed him for crazy and not driven by the same things most humans are driven by but the competitive workforce bot. i think at the end of the day we keep going back to the 47% video. i was waiting to hold it. >> you can use it as much as you want. it will be back. >> it is everyth
romney destroyed rick perry on that issue. but it was in the rhetoric he deployed there i think he sealed his fate in the general election with latinos who he got blown out in and provided a huge margin in a lot of swing states. >> great point. my choice is, of course, the anonymous videographer who captured the 47% tape which is why we happen to have that tape now. >> i was going to say you guys worked that out. >> why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what...
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. >> can mitt romney self-deport himself into the oval office? >> karl rove thinks he's conspireing with the easter bunny. tt republican party fired up and ready together? monday, january 23rd. friday, december 7th. >> this year, the grand old party gifted us the grand old clown car. it's time to bring in steady eddie, a.k. rick santorum. he is stretching it out in spandex. >> i would characterize that language as hot garbage. >> mitt romney's new campaign message to newt gingrich, no holds barred. my meow. >> the angry teddy bear. newt gingrich, the angry teddy bear in the room. >> the angry teddy bear as i like to call him and you like to call him. >> i've stolen that from you. you are the creator of the angry teddy bear with newt gingrich. >> and for that, i expect to be charging higher rates in the coming months. >> yeah. lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low
. >> can mitt romney self-deport himself into the oval office? >> karl rove thinks he's conspireing with the easter bunny. tt republican party fired up and ready together? monday, january 23rd. friday, december 7th. >> this year, the grand old party gifted us the grand old clown car. it's time to bring in steady eddie, a.k. rick santorum. he is stretching it out in spandex. >> i would characterize that language as hot garbage. >> mitt romney's new campaign message...
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. >> two words from mitt romney during a primary reverberated through to november. the issue was his plan to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers e. >> people who have come here illegally won't be able to find work and those people would leave the country. >> the concept of self-deportation by undocumented workers was not by itself responsible for romney's dismal showing among hispanics but it surely greased the skids. >> also in the cat fwoir of moments where romney wanted a mulligan there was this. >> 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims. >> romney called his remarks completely wrong. they also caused the deepest self-inflicted wound of the election. >> on the flip side -- >> he's going to be the next vice president of the united states. >> romney's vp day may have been the best moment. the selection of paul ryan excited conservatives in a way romney himself had not. >> how many moments are there in an hour and a half? the president
. >> two words from mitt romney during a primary reverberated through to november. the issue was his plan to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers e. >> people who have come here illegally won't be able to find work and those people would leave the country. >> the concept of self-deportation by undocumented workers was not by itself responsible for romney's dismal showing among hispanics but it surely greased the skids. >> also in the cat fwoir of moments...
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this time it's tag romney. the oldest of the five romney boys that tells the "boston globe" that his father never wanted to be president that much anyway. funny thing is most of the voters felt the same way. let's bring in jonathan capehart and susan delpersio. i've got to start with you, sorry girl. here's what tag romney tells the "boston globe" about his dad. quote, he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. he would have been ecstatic to step aside. as a republican, you must be thrilled to hear that. no? >> i think this quote -- as a strategist i think this falls on the category of when family members and friends try to help and make a story look better in which case it kind of backfires. because the truth is you don't do what mitt romney did. he's run for governor, he's run before. you don't do this unless you wanted it more than anything else. however, if it was really the case and he needed to be persuaded to run, that explains a lot. >> although i'm going to
this time it's tag romney. the oldest of the five romney boys that tells the "boston globe" that his father never wanted to be president that much anyway. funny thing is most of the voters felt the same way. let's bring in jonathan capehart and susan delpersio. i've got to start with you, sorry girl. here's what tag romney tells the "boston globe" about his dad. quote, he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. he would have been...
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romney was not able to live that one down, especially on-line. >> take a lisp. i want to play this one for you. >> i'm sorry, jim. i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> big bird here, patrick, may have never been so famous. did the big bird situation really hit home some. >> it did in the sense that it sort of made romney a purchling bag in the same way that another item on our list that some of the social media highlights either republicans or the national bench. when you get the moments that are sort of funny on the substance of them, but also sort of lend themselves so social media, and that was the case with clint eastwood and the case with the big bird comment. a lot of big bird fans on twitter, and they sort of made mitt romney eat his words on that one with the fake accounts and things like that. >> there goes the invisible obama. we have that chair there. that was a funny account. that was opened just within that same night. there's also this photo that was tweeted out by the president on election night. you remember. it became the most retweeted pho
romney was not able to live that one down, especially on-line. >> take a lisp. i want to play this one for you. >> i'm sorry, jim. i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> big bird here, patrick, may have never been so famous. did the big bird situation really hit home some. >> it did in the sense that it sort of made romney a purchling bag in the same way that another item on our list that some of the social media highlights either republicans or the national bench....
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who is the real mitt romney. that was a question a lot of folks had going into the final hours of election day. >> all right. >> unexpected choice for number one, but a clear favorite of the "outfront" team, alan simpson going gangnam style. let's watch it. >> oh, dear. >> stop instagraming your breakfast and getting on youtube so you can see gangnam style. ♪ gangnam style >> i got a bum knee. >> the lasso again, and then the horse back. horse, horse. the cowboys ride, the cowboys. >> there's just so much awesome about that. that was for a group called the can kicks back. it was to raise awareness about deficit and debt. >> what was awesome about that >> everything. >> roland is right. there was nothing awesome about that. as a matter of fact, roland is right, john. there's nothing right. nothing. >> john's problem is inside, he's a very old man, too. i mean, it proves old people should really -- really old people should never use social media. >> an old man who is in debt and deficits. >> he's going to do the
who is the real mitt romney. that was a question a lot of folks had going into the final hours of election day. >> all right. >> unexpected choice for number one, but a clear favorite of the "outfront" team, alan simpson going gangnam style. let's watch it. >> oh, dear. >> stop instagraming your breakfast and getting on youtube so you can see gangnam style. ♪ gangnam style >> i got a bum knee. >> the lasso again, and then the horse back. horse,...
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because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. but that's not -- what i believe. >> that's just not the facts. when the president ran for office, he said that by this year, he would have brought down the cost of insurance for each family by $2,500 a family. >> let me just finish the point. i suspect it will be -- >> it was an absolutely disgracefully bad performance. i've never seen a president of the united states blather on like that. bore us. tell us none of his major arguments. >> he let us all down. >> everybody who's ever supported him and he turned in the laziest, dumbest, most me andering, confusing performance. >> melting down on tv, the bad debate fumbles. let me imitate president obama and won. >> exactly. >> you are right. you know what, he is never been a good debater. there was nothing terribly bad about that. >> it was bad. >> listen, i want you all to look back on youtube at mccain oba obama. he wasn't that good. >> he wasn't a five star recruit in the previous debates. but in that one, he got cut. that was bad. >>
because if you do, then governor romney is your candidate. but that's not -- what i believe. >> that's just not the facts. when the president ran for office, he said that by this year, he would have brought down the cost of insurance for each family by $2,500 a family. >> let me just finish the point. i suspect it will be -- >> it was an absolutely disgracefully bad performance. i've never seen a president of the united states blather on like that. bore us. tell us none of his...
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joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to the debt ceiling impasse. >> we'll talk about the politics of that coming up. former governor of pennsylvania and nbc news political analyst, ed rendell. ed, are we going over the cliff? >> no, i think we will kick the can down the road emphatically, but we won't go over the cliff. >> wow. director of the earth institute, economist dr. jeffrey sachs. if we do, should we? >> more of the same because we're not going to solve anything, even if there's a deal today, we're going to see exactly that same tape replayed in two months, four months, six months. so i think there will be some kind of deal today, tomorrow, but it won't solve any of the basic issues. >> so a doomsday deadline
joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to the debt ceiling impasse. >> we'll talk...
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in states that romney won. because of that. >> two words. they lost. . >> as a republican woman does that make you want to leave the stage? >> i think this is punishment. this is. as a woman i want to forget it and i want to say every old white man, go study a chart of a woman's reproductive system. >> or remember that fumble. >> the top fumble of 2012. come on now. >> let's see. >> there are 47% of the female who will vote for the president no matter what. there are 47% who with with him who believe that they are victims who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them who believe they are entitled to health care to food, to housing, to you name it. these are people that pay no income tax. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> he acts as a character witness against himself in this video. he compounded every stereotype in this campaign. in that one fumble clip. >> the only thing we can do here is play ne gingrich. we have to play the skewed media. four out of five fumbles were republican? i guess they were. >> tha
in states that romney won. because of that. >> two words. they lost. . >> as a republican woman does that make you want to leave the stage? >> i think this is punishment. this is. as a woman i want to forget it and i want to say every old white man, go study a chart of a woman's reproductive system. >> or remember that fumble. >> the top fumble of 2012. come on now. >> let's see. >> there are 47% of the female who will vote for the president no matter...
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you know, mitt romney talked about big bird and pbs during the debate and people laughed. it wasn't that laughable. it's one of the bigger things left you can cut. you can cut amtrak. there aren't a lot of things that are billions of dollars in the budget you can cut. you need to cut things that hurt, that people care about. >> the deal with the sequester cuts was half out of defense, half out of discretionary spending. that's where entitlement reform stands. there are ways to cut what the president calls accurately bending the long term cost curve. you're not cutting costs in a way that can reduce economic growth immediately, but you reduce the long term debt obligation for the country, which is what we need to do. both parties agree with that, but the debt ceiling creates a situation where we really will have to start dealing with it. if we deal with it constructively, that's great for the economy. if we deal with it destructively like we have every other time we played this game, the country could be in trouble. >> i think you're right, i don't think you're even going t
you know, mitt romney talked about big bird and pbs during the debate and people laughed. it wasn't that laughable. it's one of the bigger things left you can cut. you can cut amtrak. there aren't a lot of things that are billions of dollars in the budget you can cut. you need to cut things that hurt, that people care about. >> the deal with the sequester cuts was half out of defense, half out of discretionary spending. that's where entitlement reform stands. there are ways to cut what...
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and what about governor romney? >> o'donnell: would you consider a vice presidential nomination-- >> no. it's something i'm not even considering right now. i'm so focused on my job in congress. >> then we'll talk with vice president hopeful paul ryan. $1 trillion in defense spending and you voted for it. >> no, nor. >> o'donnell: you vote forward that. >> i voted for the budget control act gleft attack takes the life our ambassador there and three other americans. >> we conot have information at present that leads us to conclude this was premeditate or preplanned. >> schieffer: are you saying that the administration deliberately misled the american people to make it look as if terrorism is-- is not as much of a threat as apparently it is? >> either they are misleading the american people or are incredibly incompetent. >> it is now the worst cover-up or incompetence i have observed in my life. somebody said to me this is as bad as watergate. nobody died in watergate. >> schieffer: when did the two of you realize this
and what about governor romney? >> o'donnell: would you consider a vice presidential nomination-- >> no. it's something i'm not even considering right now. i'm so focused on my job in congress. >> then we'll talk with vice president hopeful paul ryan. $1 trillion in defense spending and you voted for it. >> no, nor. >> o'donnell: you vote forward that. >> i voted for the budget control act gleft attack takes the life our ambassador there and three other...
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. >> what's wrong with mitt romney? is he mean to animals? i swear, she really did ask me that. four years from now, i'll be back and have to answer these questions and more all over again because i just learned that i'm expecting a new little politico next summer. maybe next time around, alec can explain it to her little brother or sister. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> so exciting. >> tingles. >> can we go get some beers? >> yeah. happy hour after this, right? >> 30 seconds left. let's name the child right now. >> the intersection of presidential politics and of course baseball. so, as we are in the bottom of the sixth in the election cycle, the game is tight. what about basketball, you say? the next treasury secretary car me lo anthony top paid big star hurt in this dive and had to leave the game. we have a classic for you as we relate to the fiscal whatever here in washington. >> i feel like it's going to be really interesting. >> oh, classic material. i wanted to see -- >> ridiculous. >> the queen of mean when you attacked the two congress people and michael steele an
. >> what's wrong with mitt romney? is he mean to animals? i swear, she really did ask me that. four years from now, i'll be back and have to answer these questions and more all over again because i just learned that i'm expecting a new little politico next summer. maybe next time around, alec can explain it to her little brother or sister. >> congratulations. >> thank you. >> so exciting. >> tingles. >> can we go get some beers? >> yeah. happy hour...
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wages go down or the top 2% who have done phenomenally well, while their effective tax rate, as mitt romney reminded us by not releasing his tax returns, is extremely low. so to my mind, what this deficit reduction debate is about is asking the wealthiest people, the large corporations to help us with deficit reduction and give a break for a change to the middle class and working families. >> as you say, one that would mean less money for seniors with the social security adjustment is off the table, are you more optimistic about getting a deal done. >> we still have a long way to go. >> what do you see as the major sticking point? >> one of the sticking pointing, what the republicans want to do is continue the 2010 agreement on lower estate tax rates, which means, chris, $120 billion tax break over a ten-year period for the top 0.2 of 1%. they get $120 billion tax break. and people come forward and say we're very serious about deficit reduction. third area that we have to look at, the president wanted, as you recall a few weeks ago, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. we're now down to, as i unde
wages go down or the top 2% who have done phenomenally well, while their effective tax rate, as mitt romney reminded us by not releasing his tax returns, is extremely low. so to my mind, what this deficit reduction debate is about is asking the wealthiest people, the large corporations to help us with deficit reduction and give a break for a change to the middle class and working families. >> as you say, one that would mean less money for seniors with the social security adjustment is off...
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example, for incomes $250,000 and above for individuals, $300,000 for families there is a cap as mitt romney talked about and that is a way of raising revenue from the top 2%. more over there is the preservation of a lot of important things to democrats, tax credits for lower income, middle income families, tax credits for investment, bonus depreciation provision and renewable energy. so there are things in there that i think the vice president will use to try to convince democrats that it's a good deal for everybody including them. >> can i respond to that? >> absolutely. >> david brings up a very good point. this is a very big bill. i obviously just looked at the top line stuff. what leader mcconnell and vice president biden did was borderline brilliant where there is a little bit in here for everybody, both conservatives but also progressives where they can go back to the constituency specifically the house and say i voted for this and here is why. there is farm stuff in there, really some good stuff folks can give them comfort and say this is a good thing for our constituency. >> and, yo
example, for incomes $250,000 and above for individuals, $300,000 for families there is a cap as mitt romney talked about and that is a way of raising revenue from the top 2%. more over there is the preservation of a lot of important things to democrats, tax credits for lower income, middle income families, tax credits for investment, bonus depreciation provision and renewable energy. so there are things in there that i think the vice president will use to try to convince democrats that it's a...
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new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first lady attended the holiday memorial service for the late u.s. senator from daniel inouye. >> white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, obviously they always say the white house travels with the president wherever he is. that's where the white house is.
new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over...
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that came up with mitt romney. a lot of his taxes come from capital gains. those are investments that affect capital gains. republicans and democrats told us there's a discussion of adding a new capital gains rate for the wealthy. that's a big deal, that's something republicans have never talked about before in the past. but it's something that has been on the table during these negotiations. i was able to find that out today. we don't know if that will be in the final deal but it's something to watch for. there's a lot more on this table, i think, than people realize. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. >> you got it. >>> hillary clinton is in the hospital tonight. the concern, a blood clot that's developed. we'll have the latest next. yea. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >>> we're following breaking news tonight. it's a medical condition of secretary of state hillary clinton. she's in a new york city hospital where she'll remain at least for the next couple of days. ac
that came up with mitt romney. a lot of his taxes come from capital gains. those are investments that affect capital gains. republicans and democrats told us there's a discussion of adding a new capital gains rate for the wealthy. that's a big deal, that's something republicans have never talked about before in the past. but it's something that has been on the table during these negotiations. i was able to find that out today. we don't know if that will be in the final deal but it's something...
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the attack ads put romney on defense for months. the president also got a lip fr lift from the supreme court. romney vowed to strike it down himself. >> i'm not one that's going to get rid of obama care. >> reporter: at number seven, gas. >> governor romney, do you feel that your gas has overshadowed your foreign trips? >> reporter: or in romney's case, his entire foreign trip where a campaign aide lashed out at reporters. a gaffe that went global. and then at number sick, the conventions were remembered less for the nominees and their running plates and more for -- >> what do you want me to tell romney? i can't tell him to do that. can't do that to himself. >> reporter: the warmup acts that stole the show. >> we believe that we're all in this together is a far better philosophy than you're on your own. >> reporter: number five, the september 11 attack in benghazi injected foreign policy into the race. >> justice will be done. >> reporter: a week later, the campaign shifted again to the hidden cram ra video of romney's comments on t
the attack ads put romney on defense for months. the president also got a lip fr lift from the supreme court. romney vowed to strike it down himself. >> i'm not one that's going to get rid of obama care. >> reporter: at number seven, gas. >> governor romney, do you feel that your gas has overshadowed your foreign trips? >> reporter: or in romney's case, his entire foreign trip where a campaign aide lashed out at reporters. a gaffe that went global. and then at number...
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on the flip side, romney's vp day may have been the best of his campaign. the selection of paul ryan he can cited conservatives in a way romney himself had not. how many moments are there in an hour and a half. the president lost all of them in the first debate. the pictures tell the story of a man who phoned it in, panicking his supporters and providing an opening for romney. and finally, the top three moments of the election best described as history-making politics. a supreme court decision upholding the constitutionality of obama care and if that doesn't strike you as political, can consider what would have happened on the campaign trail if the high court had struck down the president's signature first-term achievement. >> at a certain point i've just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that i think same-sex couples should be able to get married. >> reporter: the first president to endorse same-sex marriage was a daily double moment. good politics aimed at an activist wing of his party's base and most certainly
on the flip side, romney's vp day may have been the best of his campaign. the selection of paul ryan he can cited conservatives in a way romney himself had not. how many moments are there in an hour and a half. the president lost all of them in the first debate. the pictures tell the story of a man who phoned it in, panicking his supporters and providing an opening for romney. and finally, the top three moments of the election best described as history-making politics. a supreme court decision...
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i don't think he really respected governor romney at that point, probably thought he might have been a bit of a lightweight, also a feeling president obama wanted to feel presidential and above it all and all those things combined for a horrific performance, even his aides would admit that and he would admit that at this point. it put romney back in the race when many of us thought he might be a goner. >> just a few short weeks later hurricane sandy hit and president obama had an opportunity to appear with new jersey governor chris christie, sort of certifying a bipartisan image before the election which a lot of people thought tipped the scales back to him. >> certainly a break for the election, sandy hit the northeast. it's always good for presidents to appear presidential, to appear to be doing things. to have that happen a week out of the election was certainly an advantage. probably lost votes in the northeast states because people couldn't get to the polls, but i can't help think it was an advantage, if only to stop momentum romney had going into the last week. >> and some of m
i don't think he really respected governor romney at that point, probably thought he might have been a bit of a lightweight, also a feeling president obama wanted to feel presidential and above it all and all those things combined for a horrific performance, even his aides would admit that and he would admit that at this point. it put romney back in the race when many of us thought he might be a goner. >> just a few short weeks later hurricane sandy hit and president obama had an...
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mitt romney was, you know, very careful about social security. in the primaries he tried to outflank rick perry on the left on social security. so, yeah, yeah, republicans don't want to be seen as the people who are taking money away from old people while defending millionaire's tax cuts. they're very careful about that. >> the problem here is that these debates cannot happen simultaneously for republicans. they can't do social security, medicare reform, and cuts while they're extending or pushing for extension of tax breaks on the wealthiest. it doesn't work politically. if they want to do those two things, they have to be separated from extending tax rates from the top percent. >> they can't do it now, but could they do it on the dead death limit? will we satisfy sea the same fight return in 30, 60 days? >> yes. we're going to see it on the debt limit. we're going to see it on the continuing resolution that funds the government, which runs out in about march, so we're going to see this kind of stuff again and again. republicans, i've talked to
mitt romney was, you know, very careful about social security. in the primaries he tried to outflank rick perry on the left on social security. so, yeah, yeah, republicans don't want to be seen as the people who are taking money away from old people while defending millionaire's tax cuts. they're very careful about that. >> the problem here is that these debates cannot happen simultaneously for republicans. they can't do social security, medicare reform, and cuts while they're extending...
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for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very good job of in the past ten years or past two driklecycles governor's races, where they've won all the governor's races, redistricted by controlling legislatures and governorships, and they have the ability now to make very safe republican districts, where as opposed to having what we had was about 40 years of democratic control in the house, you could see a decade, at least, of republican control, perhaps, because of the fact that they are, or at least make it tougher for democrats to take back over the house. now, we crunched the numbers as well a few weeks ago to say there's something -- there is a vast majority of these folks have won with 60% or more in those districts. >> yes, remarkable. why compromise? >> yeah, why compromise? you know, it's just funny to me, because when you think about the fact that nothi
for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very good job of in the past ten years or past two driklecycles governor's races, where they've won all the governor's races, redistricted by controlling legislatures and governorships, and they have the ability now...
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you heard mitt romney criticize president obama because he's not spending enough on ships, which we don't need, and not staying long enough in the war zones. the republicans' view of spending is very particular one. secondly, as far as the american people are concerned, people in their districts, gee, if they represent districts in new jersey and new york they want more spending. you know, people -- if you ask them they want government pending they say no. do you want to cut medicare? no, not that. how about firefighters? people boast of cutting government. when was the last time you heard them cut fire department or cut down on snow removal? in fact the republicans tend to be opposed to spending in general. when it comes to particular spending, remember paul ryan acknowledging he was seeking to get the stimulus money that he was denouncing. but in any case, it's not the democratic position we should put all of the increased revenue into spending. by the way, i believe much of government spending is very important. there are things that we need for the quality of our life. good transporta
you heard mitt romney criticize president obama because he's not spending enough on ships, which we don't need, and not staying long enough in the war zones. the republicans' view of spending is very particular one. secondly, as far as the american people are concerned, people in their districts, gee, if they represent districts in new jersey and new york they want more spending. you know, people -- if you ask them they want government pending they say no. do you want to cut medicare? no, not...
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when that emerged, i think that that really was what sort of calcified the image of mitt romney that the president's ads had been maintaining for months and i think it was very hard even with a poor debate performance from obama at first to come back from. >> in 1984 i knew mondale was going to lose when he gave his acceptance speech and said, the next president has to raise taxes. he won't tell you, i just did. this year i believed i knew that mitt romney was going to lose when he said, i will veto the d.r.e.a.m. act if it gets to my desk. when he said that in republican debate, i knew he couldn't get to 30% among latinos and i knew he was done. >> it sounds like an obvious answer but i think president obama's re-election will be seen by history as -- i think the way that he won, the way that he won so decisively, so clearly and with an electorate whose composition surprised the heck out of the republicans will make his second term seen as -- he can no longer be seen as sort of a flukey creation of the wars and the bush economy. he's actually -- >> i'll do a variation of that. elect
when that emerged, i think that that really was what sort of calcified the image of mitt romney that the president's ads had been maintaining for months and i think it was very hard even with a poor debate performance from obama at first to come back from. >> in 1984 i knew mondale was going to lose when he gave his acceptance speech and said, the next president has to raise taxes. he won't tell you, i just did. this year i believed i knew that mitt romney was going to lose when he said,...
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more than just about obama and romney, it was about socialism and capitalism and spending and cutting and what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming and didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> and make sure you join me for the biggest stories of the year in crime, politic, money and the most scandalous stories. the top ten of 2012, 8:00 eastern. a teen battling a terminal illness uses lyrics instead of letters to say goodbyes. >> it's kind of me always being there for him. like if they keep singing that song throughout their life, it will be worth it. >> this teen's final wish, next. s that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymba
more than just about obama and romney, it was about socialism and capitalism and spending and cutting and what kind of role government should have in your life. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming and didn't bother to pay any attention to it until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now. >> and make sure you join me for the biggest stories of the year in crime, politic,...
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rom mitt romney? don't bet on it. the angry man or woman in the back row of the tea party, the angry one that stands up and scolds him, you betrayed us, you are one of them. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership or worse yet, the democratic president, or the one who voted against all of that and stayed true to the purity of the tea party dogma, no taxes, no deals, no compromises, no nothing, period. this is the wall the tea party have raised up, the wall beyond which people who captured. what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within o
rom mitt romney? don't bet on it. the angry man or woman in the back row of the tea party, the angry one that stands up and scolds him, you betrayed us, you are one of them. do they want to be the person who voted with the party leadership or worse yet, the democratic president, or the one who voted against all of that and stayed true to the purity of the tea party dogma, no taxes, no deals, no compromises, no nothing, period. this is the wall the tea party have raised up, the wall beyond which...
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. >> the romney campaign was wrong. they thought they were going to win. if you talked to them at 5:00 on election day, they would have told you they honestly believed they were going to win. i also think that -- the country is going to vote to be in a different position, and i think we have got to understand that -- >> is that a ring tone? what ring tone was that? >> i have two ring tones. i have "dancing queen" is my general ring tone for most people, and then my wife's ring tone is "super trouper." we stay with abba all the way through. >> well, that was, in fact, "dancing queen." anyway, it's not the first time abba has caused newt to pause from politics. >> immediately allow for implementation that day of the pipeline. i had to cut off my son. that was "dancing queen." i didn't have to answer it. if it's "super trouper," it's my wife, i have to answer. i should have turned the phone off. >>> next, what money can't buy. the sunlight foundation is out with a list of congressional candidates actually who spent more than $35 per vote in the 2012 election.
. >> the romney campaign was wrong. they thought they were going to win. if you talked to them at 5:00 on election day, they would have told you they honestly believed they were going to win. i also think that -- the country is going to vote to be in a different position, and i think we have got to understand that -- >> is that a ring tone? what ring tone was that? >> i have two ring tones. i have "dancing queen" is my general ring tone for most people, and then my...
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my argument to you is i wondered whether mitt romney could be better for the american economy, given his background. >> god, no. do you know why? >> you were having none of it. >> do you know why? there have been businessmen who have turned presidents. herbert hoover, george bush, the first george bush. businessmen, i think shall there were a couple of others. lousy presidents. businessmen make lousy presidents. >> why have you been so consistent in your support of obama? is >> i can't even imagine thinking about what would happen to the supreme court if a republican were the president. i mean, citizens united is a horrible thing that people can spend and waste this amount of money on elections. think of all the people that could be benefit -- could benefit from that money. >> there have been two elections since i've been in america. there have been two elections where one party has had far more financial power than the other. one was here in california with meg whitman, and one was nationally. romney clearly had more money than obama for most of that campaign, and in both cases, the
my argument to you is i wondered whether mitt romney could be better for the american economy, given his background. >> god, no. do you know why? >> you were having none of it. >> do you know why? there have been businessmen who have turned presidents. herbert hoover, george bush, the first george bush. businessmen, i think shall there were a couple of others. lousy presidents. businessmen make lousy presidents. >> why have you been so consistent in your support of...
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that came up with mitt romney. a lot of his taxes came from capital gains. republicans and democrats told us there's a discussion of adding a new capital gains rate for the wealthy. that's a big deal, that's something republicans have never talked about before in the past. but it's something that has been on the table during these negotiations. i was able to find that out today. we don't know if that will be in the final deal, there's something to watch for, there's a lot more on the table than people realize. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. >> you got it. >>> hillary clinton is in the hospital tonight. the concern, a blood clot that's developed. we'll have the latest next. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together w
that came up with mitt romney. a lot of his taxes came from capital gains. republicans and democrats told us there's a discussion of adding a new capital gains rate for the wealthy. that's a big deal, that's something republicans have never talked about before in the past. but it's something that has been on the table during these negotiations. i was able to find that out today. we don't know if that will be in the final deal, there's something to watch for, there's a lot more on the table than...
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in the lengthy campaign review in "the boston globe," the eldest romney son was quoted as saying, in part, "he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. if he could have found swums om else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. he is a very private person who loves his family deeply and has deep faith in god and he loves his country, but he doesn't love the country. >> mitt romney was horribly miscast as a candidate. we all realize that now. >> i'm biased that he's saying something in the vicinity of truth. >> really? >> you know, of course, he's been running for president for seven years. of course, he's an adult, and he decided he's running for president, but this lack -- this obvious manifest lack of fire in the belly, the fact that he knows in no way is he a natural politician, mitt romney -- >> you're kidding. >> i think there's some -- there's a disinclination, he wanted to be president less than anyone i know, i think that tag is getting at something true there, yeah. >> don't you think that no one gets into p
in the lengthy campaign review in "the boston globe," the eldest romney son was quoted as saying, in part, "he wanted to be president less than anyone i've met in my life. he had no desire to run. if he could have found swums om else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. he is a very private person who loves his family deeply and has deep faith in god and he loves his country, but he doesn't love the country. >> mitt romney was horribly miscast as a...
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to have the gop reach out to the middle class, reach out beyond their base, the repudiation of mitt romney. are they on a collision course? >> this is a rivalry welcome. i mean, bring it on! this is what the republican party needs. >> the real battle will be rubio/ted cruz because they want to say i can lock up latinos. cruz, he's a texan, he's going to come in slinging. he's going to walk in and say, marco, you're not the only hot hispanic. >> they're both trying to craft this middle class message but they're doing it in subtly different ways. i think rubio has the inside track. >> let's do something a little more top call, which is john boehner and eric cantor. even politico was saying a year ago they call for a truce, their staffs were trying to find a way to work together. speaker vote is coming up january 3rd. boehner had a bad beating in that plan b vote. >> i think the main thing that boehner has going for him in the rivalry is he has the worst job in the world. >> is it really the worst job in the world? >> certainly the worst job in congress. speaker boehner has to sit there and e
to have the gop reach out to the middle class, reach out beyond their base, the repudiation of mitt romney. are they on a collision course? >> this is a rivalry welcome. i mean, bring it on! this is what the republican party needs. >> the real battle will be rubio/ted cruz because they want to say i can lock up latinos. cruz, he's a texan, he's going to come in slinging. he's going to walk in and say, marco, you're not the only hot hispanic. >> they're both trying to craft...
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so i need you to say -- you cannot say the president or mitt romney in the answer to these questions. name your political winner and loser of 2012. roll land? >> winner, latinos, prejudice is going to push forward when it comes to immigration reform and folks from the west indies and caribbean and other parts of the country. my loser, crazy republican males who don't know how to talk about the issue of rape. don't touch it or you're going to get burned. that's the biggest loser of 2012. >> okay, erick, i know he doesn't include new that crazy white thing that he's talking about. what are your winners and losers? >> he just doesn't like the way i dress bill burton and the super pac. lose ares on the left, unions are huge. and losers, john cornyn, horrible recruitment two years in a row and this time they didn't have jim demint to blame. >> don't blame that texan on me. >> okay. take it up with him after the show. erick erickson, roland martin, thank you very much. happy new year, guys. >>> hopes have been crushed and families in the making have been ripped apart. a new law bans america
so i need you to say -- you cannot say the president or mitt romney in the answer to these questions. name your political winner and loser of 2012. roll land? >> winner, latinos, prejudice is going to push forward when it comes to immigration reform and folks from the west indies and caribbean and other parts of the country. my loser, crazy republican males who don't know how to talk about the issue of rape. don't touch it or you're going to get burned. that's the biggest loser of 2012....